STEVE DOOCY: let’s ask rush limbaugh. he’s out there somewhere in t.v. land.
RUSH LIMBAUGH: in the sunny climate of florida, good to be with you.
KILMEADE: congratulations on the 20 years a lot of people are saying
the distance senator mccain is from senator obama is the same thing al
gore was from governor bush at the time. do you see a lot of
similarities there?
LIMBAUGH: i heard you talking about the polls just a minute ago with
chris wallace. you know me. i have a more cynical view of people than
the drive-by media. the drive-by media do these polls and whether it is
a presidential poll or an opinion of the american people on anything,
we all know these polls are used to shape opinion, not reflect it, but
now we’re getting to the point where in all these pollsters have their
credibility to be concerned about and they want to be right at the end
of the day, and i think that’s why with a couple of exceptions you’re
seeing a lot of polls tighten now, because the race is tight. it’s not
over. nationally, of course, is one thing. you do have the battleground
states to be concerned about. it’s not looking bad for mccain out
there. i don’t think this is anywhere near over. there is an onslaught
in the media to make it seem like this has been long ago over. i think
the purpose of that is to suppress and depress republicans and their
vote turnout.
CARLSON: so you talk about shaping voters’ minds and that’s
something we were discussing earlier, what the polls actually do,
because who wants to go out and vote for a loser, right?
LIMBAUGH: precisely. it’s ā the media coverage of obama in this
campaign, this is the most irresponsible journalistic exhibition i have
seen in my life. i’m 57 years old. they’ve always been liberal and
they’ve always been biased but i have never seen them in the tank like
this, and i think the purpose of that, they’re doing two things. they
know there is a new media out there and there is a competition and they
are trying to show themselves they can still move public opinion and
get the country they want. now they’re not even hiding the bias.
they’re profoundly in the tank, and the purpose is, i think, to really
depress people into thinking this is over, that mccain has no prayer.
DOOCY: when you talk about shaping opinion, historically, newspapers
do it on the opinion page, well, today in the pages of “”the new york
times”" the old gray lady, she is endorsing barack obama, the same day
a poll comes out from the times where they have got barack obama up by
13 points. we have talked to pollsters that say you can effectively
drive a poll toward the answer you want, the result you want, you think
“”the new york times”" is doing something like that here?
LIMBAUGH: two things about the times. it’s classic that yesterday
standard & poor’s officially proclaimed “”the new york times”" as
junk on the day they endorsed the messiah, the lord barack obama the
most merciful. number two, why is “”the new york times”" junk? why is
their advertising revenue down? why is their pages down, their
circulation down? it’s because they’re no longer “”the new york
times”". they are the public relations department for the public
relations department of the barack obama campaign and the democratic
party.
KILMEADE: if john mccain was to have two themes in the final 11 days, what would they be?
LIMBAUGH: this is about the economy right now, guys. people do not
care about the ancillary things about obama. it’s sad. i wish we could
make them care about wright and william ayers. i think obama is the
radical in this group. i think obama moved to chicago and found those
people. he didn’t arrive as a waif and these people found him. he is a
radical and he has a lot of bitterness about race in this country, but
this is about the economy, and the thing that really frustrates me, you
guys, is this economy is directly traceable to the democrat party. they
can find a republican that is responsible for this, they would have
strung him up and had him in congressional hearings for the last two
months. this fannie mae and freddie mac thing is directly traceable to
bill clinton and barney frank. mccain will not criticize democrats
because he is afraid it will make independents mad. that’s maddening.
the idea that independents get mad at partisanship on the republican
side and defect to the most partisan, mean-spirited extremist
democratic party in my lifetime is just absurd. if he can’t tie the
democrats to this economic mass, because right now bush is being blamed
for it, that means the republicans and it is a sitting duck, you guys.
he could have done this a month ago, six weeks ago, but he just for
some reason doesn’t want to go. he wants to go pop list and blame wall
street greed, which is what obama’s doing, so big difference.
CARLSON: mccain gave an interview yesterday where he did pretty much
president bush and try to distance himself. finally, during the third
debate, he turned to barack obama and said i am not george bush. if you
wanted to run against him, you should have run four years ago.
LIMBAUGH: gretchen, you keep mentioning things that frustrate me.
there is no reason to run around yesterday and talk about how, you
know, the bush administration goofed things up. that’s just agreeing
with obama. obama is the opponent here, not george w. bush. mccain’s
problem is consistency. when he finally named dodd and barney frank at
one of these cam aign appearances in waukesha, wisconsin, everyone
thought he was on message, and the next day he is dissing bush. he
hasn’t been consistent. he has to get consistent. we can drag him
across the finish line, guys. we can do this.
KILMEADE: rush, let’s go back to the new york times who has a big
article about acorn. yeah, we told you we registered 1.3 million but
that was exaggerated, closer to a half a million. it sounds like spin
coming out of the new york times to explain, hey, a lot of people have
been worried about voter fraud. don’t worry about it.
LIMBAUGH: of course they’re going to say don’t worry about democrat
vote are fraud and they’re going to try to downplay this, but i think,
look, my reaction to this is why does obama have cheat? if this is in
the bag, why does he have to spend any more ad money? why does he have
to go to the battleground states? if this is in the bag, why does this
stuff have to happen? it is no, sir what it appears to be. there is a
false reality being presented and people have got to get a grip.
DOOCY: congratulations on 20 years, rush.
LIMBAUGH: thanks, guys.
KILMEADE: rush limbaugh, thank you very much for joining us.